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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:15:05 EST
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From: Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Blaze and Scarlet
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In a message dated 2/28/99 5:36:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, SuL.COM
writes:
> Btw, I have beautiful pictures of this pair Blaze and Scarlet feeding their
> babies in the nest as I'm feeding Scarlet through the nest door..you can
> zero
> in close to see the babies if any one would like to see this picture just
> email me....
>
> . Along with the fact I'm feeding an adorable six month old Hyacinthine.
>
> Cherane
> >>
> The only thing I want to see is you and your friend Lawrence....LEAVE
>
You don't know me either and I don't know you...I don't think I'm going to
leave...
How about you?
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:44:08 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 1:11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, C
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Hubby was up front with Crimson (not wanting to expose
> her
> or the store stock to each other)
Sue,
If you under the impression that you can visit a place where pet food, animals
of any kind and especially birds (as you stated a Scarlet Macaw fancy your
heart) and not contaminate other birds or visa versa, this is not correct. I
don't care where your husband stood in the building with your animal in the
carrier.
Air born bacteria or viruses can go through out the building no matter *where*
you stand in the building.
...And if you were sitting next to another sick bird in the vets
office....well!
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:01:16 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 1:11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, CAL.COM
writes:
> Good thing
> he wasn't holding Crimson's carrier when he fainted. I didn't buy the bird.
> I
> figured if I went to the bird farm real late today, Hercules would have
been
> sold. WRONG. There he was. Seems he
This is a bird farm? And they allowed you to come into their place of
business with your *carrier* with an occupant of that carrier?
....And you've been taking your Crimson to a vets office lately? A *carrier
and occupant * could be contaminating all places back and forth with *anything
that came and went* through visited sites.
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:15:21 EST
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> << Never planned on having more than one
> bird -- and now I have three! But believe me, that's it - no more!
> >>
>
Congratulations Kathy,
And belated Happy Birthday! May you enjoy your bundle of joy and have many
more birthdays.
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:17:41 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 12:42:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, CL.COM
writes:
>
> In a message dated 99-02-27 13:11:07 EST, you write:
>
> << I just rescued my scarlet (Jazzy) from one of the Petco stores
> here. I have had her two weeks and she has come a long way in that time
>>
>
> Hi Pat,
Hi Pat
Are you blessed with this Macaw. Jazzy is very lucky to have been taken by
you. How old is Jazzy?
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:34:02 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 8:16:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, scT.NET
writes:
> gest letting her brood two of them until the
> broody instinct leaves. I hard boiled two, cooled them, and stuck them
> under her. That cut production to zero. So far distrations have kept it
> that way.
>
> Martha
> who goes into each Fall with fingers crossed!
>
Hello Martha,
My Scarlets use to eat their eggs! I had them almost five years before I got
my first baby from them. Hard boiled, cayenne pepper, ceramic eggs, it
all...nothing they continue to eat them. I finally found a way to stop the
habit! So, it would serve me no good to put hard boiled eggs in for
them...and I hate to tell you how many times I changed eggs to have them eat
them, looking for the season or hard boiled egg.
I'm thankful to have stopped their habit, however nothing matters now for my
male is gone...
Thanks for the suggestions...been there and done it all...
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:38:55 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 8:19:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dOM.CA writes:
> t fertile eggs (depending on her
> mood or to what accusation she is fighting). Guess she thinks that an egg
> too young to be visually checked is safely assumed infertile if it suits
her
> purpose of relieving guilt over throwing them out! see quoted portion
below..
>
>
I'm very capable of candling eggs and know if they are fertile by day 3!
These eggs were thrown out as laid....
However, more then likely I would have had babies if I left the egg to
develop. However, by day six...I or anyone else can watch the development of
the circulatory system by candling.
Tell me what you think a baby Scarlet Macaw would go for at a real discount?
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:14:14 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 9:57:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
reK.NET writes:
> I wonder if she does nails too?
>
> David
>
Dear David,
No, David don't do nails or anykind. I don't have the fake nails in my skin
care clinic due to the fumes the give off.... Pretty good business however
skin care treatments seem to be a very good business. I'm expanding my
business now to include 'facials! " by the end of next month...I'm updating
this web site so be sure to come back for a visit...soon.
The other web site outofafrica is being built now. You must come to see for I
have wonderful pictures. Soon you'll see in a new book as well on the web site
of another dedicated aviculturist of African Psittacines.
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:23:53 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 9:57:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rINK.NET writes:
> Charane said to give a 60 hour notice
> for cancellations.
At least you know I don't waste my time now...don't you? When I'm at that
business I certainly don't get what I'm getting here! .....and another
thing...at least all of you know now...I have no problems with my 142 IQ!
My IQ went down only 6 points....by my accident..shame on all of you for this
kind of attacks. Anyone should beable to get on this Macaw List to explore,
implore or just hang out with welcome arms from all you old timers to assist,
invite and support anyone who has a disability or inferior to what every you
think they may need in regard to help> Shame, Shame!
Now, you do know I have not one problem with my brain, body or anything else.
Matter of a fact, I made my first profit three years AFTER my accident ... and
I couldn't walk, talk, or write! I wonder if any of you could afford this for
your history!
In all, what I'm saying is this.....God have mercy for anyone who comes to
this list less a *perfect* person of what ever you think. I truly am most
hurt, embarrassed by all of you who could attack me even *with the slightest *
hint of a possible problem pertaining to my brain or anything else you were
told.
I only hope when life passes you with the trueness of being human, you'll do
so well.
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:29:15 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 9:53:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kST.NET writes:
>
> By the way, someone on the list suggested a couple of weeks ago cutting pvc
> pipe into rings. Well, I did that and made a really nice chain. But I
also
> find that an individual ring secures my toys to the kids' cages - no metal
> involved.
>
> Kathy
>
Kathy,
My concern is the PVC your using for chewing/toys or even perches. This is
most dangerous for your bird. Please check me out with my regard to this
concern and don't dismiss my warning to you.
I have many large Macaws and the PVC went out the door when I started to do my
own microbiology. I found many strains of resistant bacteria on this
material. Micro splinters can get lodged in the body and cause more
problems. Please check this out with a qualified avian veterinarian.
Regard,
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:30:33 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 10:16:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
diGNS.COM writes:
> ly-to: MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET (The Macaws List)
> To: MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET
>
> Well, I /could/, of course, but I wouldn't. Barry would have to do that.
>
> Diane (just the reluctant list monitor, not the owner)
>
Diane, I already checked this out...NO you cannot even if you wanted to......
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:13:34 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 12:54:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ic.NET writes:
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> PVC does not cause resistant bacteria.
> Finding many resistant strains of bacteria would be for the following
> reasons:
>
> A. Incorrect and/or abusive use of antibiotics.
>
> B. Incorrect microbiology techniques such as not adequately diluting the
> inoculum for sensitivities.
>
> C. All of the above.
>
> Kath & Ic
> Do No Harm
> http://www.jacksonville.net/~icarusfl/
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>
> ----------------------- Headers --------------------------------
> Retur
Kathy your dead wrong...PVC harbors this bacteria....a fact it loves to grow
on PVC.
where did I mention anything about antibiotics in this chat???
as far as the 'sensitivity' plate....where are you at?
I place cultured bacteria on sensitivity plates for the sensitivity of/or
resistance of an antibiotic.
I use EMB AGAR AND XLD AGAR as well, Simmons Citrate AGAR. I guess one might
use Mueller hinton for diagnosis of this resistant strain of bacteria, however
NOT I........... If i have to rule out which pathogen .. or strain of this
resistant bacteria... I use the indole reagent dmaca...
I do not use sensitivity plates for diagnosis...of a bacteria!
I have a two doctors one a biologist and the other a vet to follow up with any
questions pertaining to what I have found...on PVC PIPES! A fact this
material (PVC) is carcinogenic for birds.
Just because a perch, toy is made from a material and sold...does not
constitute the safeness of that product. PVC is to be questioned by you for
you sound like or try to sound like you know what your talking about
....however, you do not!
Now, why did I do this homework....because I invented and patented a Feeding
device and the method for baby birds. I wanted to rule out any plastic
problems...along with that came PVC.
I was instructed by a noted avian researcher for this task ... about five
years ago ...I think!
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:42:26 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 1:01:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, .COM
writes:
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> Cherane - I swore I would not respond to any more of your posts but here
> it
> goes...
>
> The strongest post regarding your alleged handicaps was made by your friend
> Lawrence on Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:07:18 GMT:
I dont think so....ten years is ten years....many remarks have been written on
this list BEFORE he made this statement.
As brain injury...dead brain cells. Many ugly remarks of pure hatred! God
have mercy on each and every one of you. What he wrote was a plea to you as
he loves me dearly and this tore him up to no end to read your attacks.
. I can bring up a many of your direct stabs at (WAS) my disability. How DARE
any of you regard someone less then you because of an injury. Further, how
DARE any of you take anyone apart because they ARE less then you in body or
otherwise. As Macaw owners I would have expected more from you.
I suffered TEN years ago and back then I went through the same attacks on
Genie as I have suffered here with you.
I know how the instructions get passed around by hidden email...I've been
there and had that happen to me before...
I know the score...none of you know me! Not one of you do I know.
I thought with Macaw Owners this would be different! I' m outraged!
And you have the nerve to tell me how a "warm hearted, caring and loving
person," most of you are!
You bird owners need to go out and help someone who is disabled to make up for
behavior, just to undo your practice. People are not stupid it is very
obvious what all of you were doing here, to obvious.
If all of you knew the amount of email I have gotten from this list to implore
me to stay, you'd feel very childish and sick to realize you don't have as
many followers as you think.
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:50:11 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 1:15:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, DL.COM
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> first let me state that a couple of people have told me they like hearing
> about rembrandt. however, if some of you feel i talk about him too much,
> let
> me know and if i get several requests in that vein i will limit my
> mentioning
> him to questions i have or really unusual antics.
Doris, I love hearing about your rembrandt...Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:01:41 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 8:58:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JArcher107@AOL.COM writes:
> >>Lawrenc
>
> Poor Larry, wide of the mark again desopite all that practice. First, as
> someone who deals with rescues, I'm at the other end of the feeding chain
> from
> a breeder, and as most of you know, spend more of my time worrying about
> preventing rather than encouraging breeding (she said while running to see
> what Hawk and Cosette are up to...). My mother, on the other hand, was
> breeding them 50 years ago, so I learned about the "birds" part of that
> birds-
> n-bees thing rather early.
>
> As for copulating w/o breeding, dare I say 'safe sex' again or will
Cheranne
> faint dead away at my incredibly file language? And producing eggs w/o
> copulation is also what humans females do much of their lives.
>
> So, all around yet ANOTHER dazzlingly logical response.
>
> Judith
>
Judy...
If you statement didn't have a hidden agenda I would laugh! ...Tell me are
you a member of PEta? You certainly are singing their tune....
My dazzling logical response,
Cherane
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:05:28 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 8:30:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, kaP.NET
writes:
>
> >Stepped on the wrong person this time ! Those who know of me will know of
> what
> >I speak. BTDT, BTDT, BTDT and BTDT. Personally, I think I will try to get
a
> >little rest before the next need arises.
> >
>
Now that is what I call NOT an intelligent conversation! God, I even wore
her out!
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:22:00 EST
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In a message dated 2/28/99 9:48:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dOM.CA writes:
>
> > These eggs were thrown out as laid....
> > However, more then likely I would have had babies if I left the egg to
> > develop. However, by day six...I or anyone else can watch the
> > development of the circulatory system by candling.
> > Tell me what you think a baby Scarlet Macaw would go for at a real
> > discount?
> > Cherane
>
> Doesn't much matter what the discount price is. You would rather see them
> all dead (murderer) than to not make a profit on them.
>
>
>
> Denise
> Douglas (Husband), Kayla and Cookie (M2's),
> Yoshi (CAG), Zeus (B&G), and Lotus (DYHA).
> Feel f
First of all, you didnt quote my message in its entire..you took and move
words to accommodate your attack ...I threw away INFERTILE EGGS.....
I resent you calling me a murderer... You know...your getting real close to
being just at the peak of demonstrating *hate*
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