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<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0> <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr> <td valign="top" colspan=2 height=90 BGCOLOR="#006699" TEXT="#080000" background="600fd5a3.jpg"> <div> <FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" ><B>About me</B></FONT><B>    </B><B> |     </B><A HREF="index.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="About me"><B>home</B></A></div> <div> <A HREF="id193.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Cherane Messages"><B><IMG SRC="5a40e0e0.png" border=0 width="14" height="14" ALT="up" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></A><B>   </B><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="1x1.gif" HEIGHT="14" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" WIDTH="14"><B>     </B><A HREF="id179.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Feb 28 1999 Macaws List"><B><IMG SRC="5a50e0e0.png" border=0 width="14" height="14" ALT="previous" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></A><B>  </B><A HREF="id176.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Peace"><B><IMG SRC="5a60e0e0.png" border=0 width="14" height="14" ALT="next" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></A></div> <div> </div> </td> </tr><tr> <td valign="top" width=210 BGCOLOR="#FFCC66" TEXT="#080000" background="601d2b03.jpg"> <div> UNEDITED Messages I wrote  in Feb 1999 to the Macaws List.  I have removed the email address of others  I answered.</div> <div> All you have to do is go to your archives to read my messages.  I challenge anyone to bring one of my messages here on my sight and show me any edits from MY responses.</div> <div> <I>In presenting these pre-posted messages, I hope to share </I></div> <div> <I>with the readers of this site a glimpse of the helpful </I></div> <div> <I>information I have shared with the very people who have </I></div> <div> <I>created the need for the attorney letter which is also </I></div> <div> <I>found in these pages. </I></div> <bR> <div> <I>Any admonishments to others for giving advice to bird </I></div> <div> <I>breeders were the result of some fundamental ideas: </I></div> <bR> <div> <I>1) Though we may share our personal experiences, we do </I></div> <div> <I>not have the right to practice veterinary medicine </I></div> <div> <I>without a license. </I></div> <bR> <div> <I>2) "First, do no harm." In using nutritional </I></div> <div> <I>supplements, vitamins, herbal treatments, alternative </I></div> <div> <I>methods for your own birds, you should be well informed </I></div> <div> <I>about the product being used and contraindications. If </I></div> <div> <I>you are breeding birds, you can't wait until it is too </I></div> <div> <I>late to get information about and equipment for hatching </I></div> <div> <I>your eggs or feeding your babies.</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>3) "Give credit where credit is due." Aviculturists </I></div> <div> <I>should show professional courtesy.</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>4) Keep the law and stay honest. Twisting the facts is </I></div> <div> <I>telling a lie.</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>5) Personal confidences and sharing should be guarded by </I></div> <div> <I>both parties. </I></div> <bR> <div> <I>6) It is good to be proud of your personal </I></div> <div> <I>accomplishments, and to be happy.</I><FONT SIZE="4" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Comic Sans MS" ><B> </B></FONT></div> <bR> <bR> </td> <td valign="top" height=390 width="100%" BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#080000"> <div> <I> cherane's messages on                  Macaws List</I></div> <div> date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:17:39 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: New Baby</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/24/99 3:16:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, bignest@GVTC.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Shirley and the Greys, Texas</div> <div> >  Bignest Aviary - www.bignest.com</div> <div> >  J/S Beefmaster Ranch - www.bignest.com/ranch.htm</div> <div> >  ICQ# 280735</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Shirley,</div> <bR> <div> Just had a great afternoon with that rancher I told you about some time ago.</div> <div> I was wrong...about the milkings they do ... it is only 2,500 milkings aday.</div> <div> Margaret said you'd know what that meant.  As twice a day?</div> <bR> <div> Anyway, .</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:13:48 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: New Baby</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/24/99 11:07:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> stR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Congratulations!!  How exciting.</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Thank you Nancy,</div> <bR> <div> I almost am in a dream world of my own as my mother is only four years old</div> <div> this past May...with her first baby last August of which I'm still feeding</div> <div> twice a day.  Here is the web site for this pair along with the 'older baby'</div> <div> Phoenix.</div> <bR> <div> http://members.tripod.com/~cherane/hyacinthbaby.html</div> <bR> <div> I'll be making the album of this six month old baby as I also have one for the</div> <div> mother, Velvet.  I'm in the process putting pictures up on a site regarding</div> <div> all the animal pictures I took in South Africa the six weeks visit I had this</div> <div> past holiday season, thus very busy to say the least.</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:19:32 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: MACAWS Digest - 22 Feb 1999 to 23 Feb 1999 - Special</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/24/99 10:12:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, OL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  we ate and played together for at least</div> <div> >  1/2 hour until he got too antsy and i put him back.  of course this morning</div> <div> > he</div> <div> >  is a loner again, but after giving him a rest i am going back to play.</div> <div> >  doris</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Doris,</div> <bR> <div> I have found soft music very good to help a bird recover from stress after a</div> <div> move, puling babies or a new environment for his/her benefit.  The oldies but</div> <div> goodies get tuned in for all my large Macaws...:)</div> <bR> <div> Give a scratch from me..Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> =================================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:46:31 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      New Baby</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> I'm thrilled to announce the hatching of the offspring of Velvets and Dolci</div> <div> Blue, a hyacinthine Macaw.  The great happening occurred at 6:04 AM.  The</div> <div> owners have named the baby 'Angel."</div> <bR> <div> This seems to be a popular name!  Can you tell I'm happy?</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:42:20 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ==============================================================</div> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:18:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> lenz@T writes:</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  As I said, one word from me and the next thing it would be Law Suit Time!</div> <div> >  Oh, how I longed to hear those words! You can stop threatening any time</div> <div> >  now. I've been speaking my peace for over 10 years and you're just as</div> <bR> <bR> <div> cherane writes:</div> <div> again, stop flattering yourself!  your blabber/manners/lies/cursing speaks for</div> <div> you.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:45:09 -0600</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:34:46 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:18:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> lenz@NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  The last time you tried, despite all your "stock in the company" and your</div> <div> >  "knowing the board of directors", I STILL got you thrown off Genie.</div> <bR> <div>  I have>  enough dirt on you AND your vets to see that 1)they never, EVER speak to >  you again and 2)MOST of them will never practice medicine again if I pursue</div> <div> >  charges.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I think your  having problems Sweetheart..I have the same qualified avian vets</div> <div> for the last ten years.......YOU didn't remove me from Genie.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <bR> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:23:57 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> corbett@ writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  I feel like vomiting.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Chris</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Chris, although I know you mean well....these hybrids are Macaws.  Does this</div> <div> mean you don't have hybrid owners here on the list?  You do not like a hybrid</div> <div> Macaw?</div> <div> They are precious.....ask Len?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:09:31 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 10:20:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Ewwwwwwwwwwwweeeeee! now that was clear as mud Cherane...</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Yep, now that is behind us....</div> <bR> <div> ...How about we talk about my Hyacinthine that hatched out yesterday...it was</div> <div> 34 grams this morning...cute as the first one.  I have it snuggled up against</div> <div> a key ring stuffed animal...a pink pig.  Did I tell all the name is 'Angel?"</div> <div> My other baby hyacinthine just looks at his little creature with studying</div> <div> eyes.</div> <bR> <div> Here go look at my other hyacinthines....do you think that 'll make up for my</div> <div> one pile of *mud* :)</div> <div> <A HREF="http://www.plannedparrothood.com/seniors.html">Senior Psittacines</A></div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:48:51 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:29:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,leNET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Yet another "Experienced Breeder" promoting hybrids. Such a STRONG VOICE</div> <div> >  for Aviculture. <NOT></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hey Sweetheart, Darling....Honey your the one who taught me about hybrids.</div> <div> Did you already forget?  How to put the two together...and come out with what</div> <div> you came out with...I speak very well for aviculture...over 100 macaws to my</div> <div> credit along with the Queens...and now the Hyacinthines...stayed away from</div> <div> what you taught me till now.  Oh yes...almost forgot very good with the Red</div> <div> Fronted Macaws too...</div> <bR> <div> Remember how I could just flick my wrist and a cockatoo would come popping out</div> <div> from eggs all over the place...well, I have the same thing going with Macaws!</div> <bR> <div> How about that Sweetie...:)</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:50:45 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:30:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> len writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Oh, JUST what we need, a HYBRID expert. You really are the lowest form of</div> <div> >  scum in the avian world, aren't you, Sissy-boy?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Will someone tell me how does he get away with this insulting breeders in</div> <div> other countries?  or anyone as far as that goes.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> =========</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:56:45 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Len's Impatience with BS</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:59:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> l.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Fuck diplomacy. I've already given him more concrete advice than all the</div> <div> >  rest of the wasted bandwidth combined. The result: "oh, it doesn't *TASTE *</div> <div> >  good so I'm not going to take my medicine". So be it. You want to PAY for</div> <div> >  my advice, fine, I'll give it to you on your terms. If I'm handing it out</div> <div> >  for free, you'll take it the way you get it. If you don't like it, don't</div> <div> >  read it. The only person you'll be hurting is yourself. I KNOW where this</div> <div> >  is going. You do not. And neither does Stan.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</div> <bR> <bR> <div> What happened to being considerate and kind to others Len?  Why do you think</div> <div> your the 'all' ?  There are plenty of brilliant people on this list to assist</div> <div> others.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:35:49 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:17:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> leNK.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> > ></div> <div> >  >Len</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  I stand corrected. It didn't even take a day.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Pathetic.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> Len, Don't flatter your self!     " Your not worth the price of an attorney</div> <div> over your blabbing/cursing/manners. "</div> <bR> <div> I don't understand how you get away with calling people names on this list!</div> <div> I'd like to know how you get away with the way you talk to people here.</div> <bR> <div> If a retarded person came on this list to share and get help you'd eat them up</div> <div> alive...</div> <bR> <div> That IS pathetic!</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:44:53 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 8:28:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> JOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  << Yes, to put with my Scarlet....</div> <div> >    >></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  My question remains "Why?"</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  judith</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Lets see...my female has top priority...I want another male for her.  Of</div> <div> course, if you have a subspecies mature male just like my female...I'll take</div> <div> him!</div> <bR> <div> As I've looked for a male just like my pair for over five years for another</div> <div> female Scarlet and haven't found one with clean bill of health.  While</div> <div> everyone tells me how plentiful they are, I sure haven't' found one...however,</div> <div> if you can please bring him on out and I'll snatch him in a heart beat.</div> <bR> <div> I want a bird for my female now......so I have chosen a Camelot for her ... if</div> <div> I have babies...I'll not worry for none of my babies have been sitting in</div> <div> trees thus far and I doubt if ever I'll send them to the rainforest....a pet</div> <div> is a pet is a pet!</div> <bR> <div>  I have made up my mind to get a male for this little girl, and if I'm going</div> <div> to be crucified better for something I like to have around for a while.</div> <div> .....and when Blaze comes back to us, Scarlet and me...... ...I'll take the</div> <div> Camelot for my personal pet.  I doubt very much if the Camelot and my Scarlet</div> <div> will breed with her so depressed and he'll keep her good company.</div> <bR> <div> Of course, unless there is a nice big mature male Scarlet of my Scarlets</div> <div> subspecies or origin//color markings or what ever...</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:13:11 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 8:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> sta.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > and will ask her if Aspergillosis in the lungs and air sacs is</div> <div> >  a possibility (along with several other suggestions I've received).</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> At any rate, it is good to rule out this disease.  Also, you might check to</div> <div> see if the past owners used corn cob for bedding or ask them what they used.</div> <div> Sometimes, this disease can take up to a year to 'show symptoms."</div> <bR> <div> Please keep us informed of the situation at hand.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:56:41 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 7:24:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> lenz@EARTHLINK.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  No, you'll just find that when it comes to Cherane, the "truth" is highly</div> <div> >  variable...to say the least. Oh, btw, she's "sued" me dozens of times, too.</div> <div> >  Give her a day and she'll threaten me with her lawyer again for having the</div> <div> >  audacity to post the truth.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <bR> <div> Len, you haven't a thing I want or anything to go after...I already had you</div> <div> checked out five years ago....when you came after me on Genie.  Your not worth</div> <div> the price of an attorney over your blabbing/cursing/manners.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:57:40 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 7:33:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> JOM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  A camelot?????</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Judith</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Yes, to put with my Scarlet....</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:30:53 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 7:02:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, DRTCHNJ@AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > and i do</div> <div> >  apologize if the bird who disappeared did not fly away while under your</div> <div> care.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  doris</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Doris,</div> <bR> <div> No, it had never been mentioned on recpetsbirds of my bird ever flying away.</div> <div> He could not fly with a disabled wing he has...that threw the monkey in the</div> <div> fire for the people who have my Macaw.</div> <div> However, it seems that if he is found...maybe a lot of birds that are stolen</div> <div> will be found...and that is a fact!</div> <div> I could go into a great deal more but for the safety of my bird I will not!</div> <div> Just make me boil how anyone can do this to a pair of birds, anybird.</div> <div> Your apologies are accepted Doris.</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:15:56 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 2:25:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> maCOM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Cherane,</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  How is the mate of the missing scarlet doing?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Marianne</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> This is my first week of knowing she is going to make it!  She is so</div> <div> depressed, however, she has pin feathers coming out now with color in her</div> <div> feathers with some breast meat on her.  This is my first week I do not have to</div> <div> force feed her or give her ringers injections.  She is talking to me but still</div> <div> so depressed.  She does go to her nest box each nite.  I have tried seven of</div> <div> her offspring each one in with her however, that didn't work for she scared</div> <div> the youngsters.</div> <bR> <div> I'm now looking for a Camelot Male for her till I get Blaze back.</div> <div> They were together for 12 years...and have been with me since 92</div> <div> Thanks for asking about Scarlet...</div> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> If anyone knows of a Camelot mature male for sale please let me know.</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:04:01 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 2:22:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> lenz@EARTHLINK.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Oh, you mean the one you LET FLY AWAY. Shit, can't you even take</div> <div> >  responsibility for your own gross mistakes?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  >$2,000 to the person who give me back my Scarlet Macaw safely!  If you</div> <div> > would</div> <div> >  >xpost to all rescue list I would appreciate this...</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  You don't disserve to have birds, hence I'd think anyone foolish enough to</div> <div> >  return one to you MUST be an animal hater.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</div> <bR> <bR> <div> That enough Len!  You haven't the slightest clue to what your talking</div> <div> about....not one clue!  This Macaw was stolen!  As far as flying...it cannot</div> <div> fly!</div> <bR> <div> If you make any more comments about my stolen Scarlet Macaw,  I will hand this</div> <div> over to the detective here and they'll have the detectives in California come</div> <div> and hear all you have to say....you can tell them just how much you know about</div> <div> my Macaw.  I suggest you keep your mouth shut about me and my birds.  Unless,</div> <div> of course you want a visit.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> One more thing for the readers of this list....I wasn't in this country when</div> <div> my Scarlet was stolen ...I was in South Africa!  I know where he is....and the</div> <div> detectives know where he is........</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:57:20 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 1:20:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> pa.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Oops!</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  As an addendum to that lengthy rant, I wanted to ask y'all if anyone has</div> <div> >  pictures that they would be willing to share to possibly be used in the</div> <div> >  AFA presentation.  I have some, but would</div> <bR> <div> http://members.tripod.com/~cherane/hyacinthbaby.html</div> <bR> <div> Or...how about my MIkee...who the ambassador great Britain brought him into</div> <div> the country when he was six months old...Mikeee lived on fifth avenue till</div> <div> 1985 when he went to the Smithsonian DC....then on to Disney World in Orlando</div> <div> Florida till I got him in 1993 of January.  He is a Hyacinthine Macaw and can</div> <div> be viewed at</div> <bR> <div>  <A HREF="http://www.plannedparrothood.com/seniors.html">Senior Psittacines</div> <div> </A>  I do have lovely pictures of this Jewel who is now 34 years old last</div> <div> October...documented with cut closed rings and all Smithsonian paperwork ...</div> <div> and Disney world.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Lets see....I do have some P. robustus robustus around here somewhere!  Also</div> <div> those adorable hyacinthine with you giving me your email I'll send some your</div> <div> way...I would love that Phoenix would be in  as he is my baby's baby..F2  ....</div> <div> Many do not know what F 2 is.....</div> <bR> <div> Also, I have some great shots of my scarlet mamma feeding her two babies in</div> <div> the nest as I'm feeding  her bananas...through the nest box door.......</div> <bR> <div> I have a redfronts in a pin feather stage....one on his back with</div> <div> others...hatching.</div> <bR> <div> I have queens....or rose breast in the cockatiel stage..</div> <bR> <div> My prize would be my photos of my trip to south africa....as these birds are</div> <div> the same birds that rosemary low visited and took pictures of the very same</div> <div> birds. I also have weaver birds  building their nest in the trees..</div> <div> get an idea of what I'm buidling</div> <div> now....http://members.tripod.com/~cherane/outofafrica.html</div> <bR> <div> you'll see all the mask weavers nest as I go down the Klip River.....yada</div> <div> yaday yada...reason I asked if pictures were allowed for I have lions setting</div> <div> in the trees.....</div> <bR> <div> Interested I would love to contribute....someone once told me to do an article</div> <div> for AFA and I think I might just do that!  How ever it would be about a 'fly'</div> <div> that goes after nesting...another problem with saving our Capes.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:00:24 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 12:48:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> Ladymacaw007@EMAIL.MSN.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  >Blessings,</div> <div> >  >Rummy (aka Running-Horse)</div> <div> >  >Animal Rescue Team</div> <div> >  >Homeopathic Animal Practitioner</div> <div> >  >personal email:  </div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi, if anyone calls you with a Scarlet Macaw....remember I have a couple of</div> <div> rewards out for my safe return of my Scarlet Macaw..</div> <div> He is Microchip with Dr. Backos holding the numbers...</div> <div>  for the safe return and arrest with conviction of the culprit who</div> <div> abscond my Scarlet..</div> <bR> <div>  to the informant who is the way to the safe return of my Scarlet Macaw.</div> <bR> <div>  to the person who give me back my Scarlet Macaw safely!  If you would</div> <div> xpost to all rescue list I would appreciate this...</div> <bR> <div> Thank you, I have pictures of my Scarlet Macaw if anyone would like to see</div> <div> Blaze ... email me..</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:13:50 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 10:06:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, L.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  BYW, I hate the vaccum. I prefer to have the birds out</div> <div> >  of the area while it is in use if I can.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Sue</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Sue,</div> <div>  you and me both!  I hate carpets, they are rags for the shoes as far as I'm</div> <div> concerned.  I will not use any vacuum cleaner or hair blower around birds.  I</div> <div> don't like what filters in and out through the vacuum and comes out through</div> <div> all the bacteria and molds sitting in those bags...with the hair blower the</div> <div> same thing, suck in the contaminates and blow them out onto the birds.</div> <bR> <div> I pulled up all my carpet so I could breather a blessing in disguise...</div> <div> :)</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:37:16 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:25:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> sta.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  I just had hoped that someone on this list could possibly suggest something</div> <div> >  I hadn't thought of (possibly from experience?).  Sorry I bothered</div> <div> everyone.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Stan.</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> There is a disease caused by an infection by a mold, Aspergillosis in the</div> <div> lungs and air sacs..  marked by granulomas ....abscesses</div> <bR> <div> As are you using corn cob, walnut bedding in the tray of the cage?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:57:27 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Don't read this, Len. It's OT/was:Attn Diane, UBEs etc....</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 12:36:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, ByAOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > ontractor) and SBS just is another day to feed birds. Ok - jest wonderin</div> <div> >  where you were goin ???  Don</div> <div> >  Ps - I got a G/w egg today :)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Congrats....am I green with envy?? nope!  :)  love your happy days Don!  Soon</div> <div> your gonna catch up with me...I'm slow now without my male Scarlet for</div> <div> mylady....:(</div> <bR> <div> Give those babies a scatch from me...</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:59:51 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Rant</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 1:01:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> JL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > Make a point of leting him know that etco's</div> <div> >  practices re the larger parrots is turning away primo customers, ie, the</div> <div> > ones</div> <div> >  that spend big bucks on food toys etc.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Judith</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hello,</div> <bR> <div> They'll get rid of the Macaw if to much of a hassle is given.  Someone buy the</div> <div> Macaw first please...</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ====================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 06:47:29 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Pictures (finally)</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 12:05:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> JaeL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > I finally have a couple of pictures of Pasha that I would love to</div> <div> >  share - anyone wants to see them - let me know.  Meanwhile, I'll be sifting</div> <div> >  through this volume of</div> <div> >  mail!!!!!!</div> <div> >  Thanks, Jan</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Jan,</div> <bR> <div> Love the name and would love to see your pictures!  Are able to attach</div> <div> pictures here on the list?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:48:34 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar Macaw needs home</div> <div> Comments: cc: ter.net</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 3/3/99 12:19:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, @AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Hi Cherane</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Jazzy is 1 yr old.  We are working on biting.  She will step up out of her</div> <div> >  cage and off of her play gym.  She likes scritches and being talked to</div> <div> alot.</div> <div> >  She also loves my other two, my catalina Maya and my umbrella Koby.  She</div> <div> > just</div> <div> >  likes to bite really hard when I try to hold her on my lap.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hello Pat,</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Pat,</div> <bR> <div> Sometimes I've found that the younger ones, when frightened, have only one</div> <div> way of showing us,.by biting.  I have a Scarlet baby of around the same</div> <div> age.  When I took her sibling away (an older sister), she became afraid of</div> <div> nearly everything, including the shadows around her.  I found that instead</div> <div> of dealing with her biting, for which I had a piece of wood that she held</div> <div> onto when she was in my lap, I should actually be dealing with her sense of</div> <div> insecurity.</div> <div> This is now history with her, as I found a way to help her get over it....How?</div> <div> By devising a program of games, rolling around on the floor with</div> <div> her, door games, jumping rope and especially allowing her to fly around in</div> <div> the house, under supervision and on command.  I made this part of my regimen</div> <div> in helping her regain her confidence, as an individual, without her having</div> <div> to rely on her older sister as a constant companion. I now always look for</div> <div> the following five things around one of my kids when having to deal with</div> <div> biting or screaming, these are, ...mad, sad, glad or solitude and or scared.</div> <div> It usually has to be at least one, sometimes more than one.</div> <bR> <div> The wood is used to allow them something to channel their urge to bite, and</div> <div> I give them permission to do so, when I feel it necessary, they are allowed</div> <div> to bite, but only on the wooden block.  I use 2x4's cut  into blocks of</div> <div> UNTREATED pine.</div> <bR> <div> I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures of your playful kids.  I would</div> <div> love to tell you about the games I have worked out, to play with and to</div> <div> socialize my Macaws into healthy, happy and fun adults. If you are interested,</div> <div> please let me know.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div> Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.calgaryparrotclub.com/Effects/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> http://www.upatsix.com/afa</div> <div> join and support bird ownership and bird breeding with</div> <div> first hand interaction in the US:</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hyacinthines, Scarlets, Hahns,Blue and Gold,</div> <div> Red Front Macaws.</div> <div> Rose Breasted Cockatoos,African Greys,Queens,</div> <div> Jardines,Capes,Vosmaeri Eclectus,Bare Eyes Cockatoos,</div> <div> =====================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:29:19 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Bird related site you might want to see</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 3/4/99 1:20:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> JNET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Check this site out</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  http://www.ieighty.net/~jhigbee/save_aviculture.html</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Thank you for posting this...</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div> Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.calgaryparrotclub.com/Effects/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> http://www.upatsix.com/afa</div> <div> join and support bird ownership and bird breeding with</div> <div> first hand interaction in the US:</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hyacinthines, Scarlets, Hahns,Blue and Gold,</div> <div> Red Front Macaws.</div> <div> Rose Breasted Cockatoos,African Greys,Queens,</div> <div> Jardines,Capes,Vosmaeri Eclectus,Bare Eyes Cockatoos,</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:21:39 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Yellow Collar...Retrun Scarlet Macaw</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:30:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> l writes:</div> <bR> <div> > At 07:56 PM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote:</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Let's get the TRUTH out just ONCE shall we? You came after ME when I</div> <div> >  refused to let you act like a DVM and proscribe your own drugs <which you</div> <div> >  use LIBERALLY on all you sick flock>. Then YOU came after ME and the result</div> <div> >  was YOU got your ass kicked off Genie. Let's see you refute THAT one.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> I still have every single piece of writing on that list.  On the contrary,</div> <div> you're the one that wants to sound like a DVM or a mad surgeon as put by</div> <div> Carol........I hire my DVM's.........I stayed on Genie till last year...I</div> <div> didn't stay on YOUR pet board  for I couldn't use the CAS DESIGNATION ......</div> <div> . As far as my prescribing drugs...ridiculous!  So, now five or almost six</div> <div> years later your still burning even though your power or management position</div> <div> made me not able to use my CAS and I would not stop using it.  That is not DVM</div> <div> ... it is CAS!  This is laughable...for I stayed on Genie till last year!</div> <bR> <div> Btw, I'm still a certified avian specialist...but now I think with so many</div> <div> babies under my belt...a hatch here and there...that speaks more of my</div> <div> capabilities...</div> <bR> <div> Meanness and cruelty you have shown to me in the past with the position you</div> <div> held.  I certainly would hope this is not going to be the case here.  As far</div> <div> as the dirt.....I wonder what that could be...gee, I haven't even had a</div> <div> parking ticket don't smoke...drink or been to jail, not killed anyone, rob</div> <div> anyone nor have I double parked.</div> <bR> <div> Lets see...I was on BIN till it closed..hmmm.. I'm still on rec.pets.birds</div> <div> If I choose to go and come to different list that is my business...I don't</div> <div> need to account to you with regard to that at all ... with all your name</div> <div> calling, your throwing fits about what ever I do...it is not going to change</div> <div> me nor make me a what ever you configure I'm going to be...</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:32:58 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:31:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> leT writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  would not manifest the transient, severe symptoms you</div> <div> >  described. The only reason Cherane brings it up is because its a constant</div> <div> >  problem with her birds. She hasn't learned how to keep them healthy yet so</div> <div> >  she assumes everyone else is as incompetent as she is. You're looking for</div> <div> >  an air borne allergen or toxin.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Len</div> <bR> <div> This man knows nothing about my birds!  I dont have to learn how to keep my</div> <div> birds healthy, they are healthy!  I have gorgeous birds.</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:40:18 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 9:39:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, kET</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > How can you be so sure that they will get along?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Kathy</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> I'm not sure for her own off spring she has rejected.  I'm hoping that he</div> <div> doesn't look like her mate......just a slim hope.  I'll put her in the</div> <div> quarantine with him but in different cages.  I'm hoping with different</div> <div> coloring, temperament that he'll stimulate her with wanting to live at least.</div> <bR> <div>  At any rate, I'll have a Camelot..if I can find a Scarlet at least mature for</div> <div> her then I'll go that way, but I've been told that she'll refuse the Scarlet.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:50:55 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 10:01:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, kET</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  So why put a Camelot with a Scarlet?  To match the living room curtains?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Kathy</div> <bR> <bR> <div> No, I have my hyacinthines for that decor...(sigh)</div> <bR> <div> I'm a breeder, I have a aviary of which this scarlet in in...not in my living</div> <div> room</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ======</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ===================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:04:22 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/25/99 10:32:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> L.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  so, if these birds lay eggs. are ya going to toss out fertile eggs like you</div> <div> >  did in the past?</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Do you really believe I threw out fertile Scarlet Macaw eggs?  You never heard</div> <div> or read those words from me/</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:32:49 +0800</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         WAR <toocute@TELEVAR.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> MIME-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined</div> <div> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> Cherane dear ...</div> <div> Shall we call Dr Susan Clubb in on this one??? Wonder what she would</div> <div> have to say in your defence...NOW THIS WOULD BE MORE THAN FUN!!!  OH</div> <div> DR. SUSAN!!!!!!!!</div> <div> I would advise you to unsub before this getz outa hand... your Choice!</div> <div> AND don't say we didn't warn YE !!!! <snort></div> <div> You just subed to sell you rstock... some of us DO and have read the</div> <div> boards and classifides..for many years....</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Cherane Pefley wrote:</div> <div> ></div> <div> > In a message dated 2/25/99 9:30:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> > lenNET writes:</div> <div> ></div> <div> > ></div> <div> > >  Oh, JUST what we need, a HYBRID expert. You really are the lowest form of</div> <div> > >  scum in the avian world, aren't you, Sissy-boy?</div> <div> > ></div> <div> > >  Len</div> <div> > ></div> <div> ></div> <div> > Will someone tell me how does he get away with this insulting breeders in</div> <div> > other countries?  or anyone as far as that goes.</div> <div> ></div> <div> > Cherane</div> <bR> <div> --</div> <bR> <div> WAR</div> <div> Cheep Thrills Aviary</div> <div> http://members.tripod.com/~WARBYRD/index.html</div> <bR> <div> The Cockatoo is just the gentle spirit of a small mischievous child</div> <div> trapped in the body of a white bird.</div> <div> =====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:41:02 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 1:31:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > Cherane dear ...</div> <div> >  Shall we call Dr Susan Clubb in on this one??? Wonder what she would</div> <div> >  have to say in your defence...NOW THIS WOULD BE MORE THAN FUN!!!  OH</div> <div> >  DR. SUSAN!!!!!!!!</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I think Dr.Susan Clubb has better things to do then get on this Macaw list and</div> <div> go at you.</div> <bR> <div> I see your without a  name or ID!</div> <bR> <div> Cherane ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:45:56 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 2:03:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, L.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  don't particularly like the notion of trying to mate the scarlet with her</div> <div> >  offspring (apparently the mama scarlet didn't like it either).  and i can't</div> <div> >  imagine starting a hyacinthINE down the road to egg production at age four</div> <div> > or</div> <div> >  earlier.</div> <div> >  doris</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Doris, I have never tried to mate my baby scarlet with his momma ... my</div> <div> scarlet is very depressed and just this week started to get up the speed of</div> <div> life on her own...I tried to get my Scarlet motivated with company from her</div> <div> own off spring..all of them.</div> <bR> <div> I am a breeder of the hyacinthines....I'm very sorry you are not celebrating</div> <div> this joy with me.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:58:58 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: babies..Macaws</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 2:36:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> JAAOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  For anyone who DOESN'T know, this is a little educational program designed</div> <div> > for</div> <div> >  pet shop employees to teach them some fundamentals about bird care.  That's</div> <div> >  fine with me, the more knowledge out there the better, but for someone to</div> <div> >  insist on declaring themselves this is incredibly revealing.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Judith</div> <bR> <bR> <div>   I also took the first seminar of which Dr.Clubb presented or taught........I</div> <div> thought to support a qualified avian veterinarian in her presentation.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I think my history and records show my skills with Aviculture ... btw, a nice</div> <div> topic in Dr. Clubbs presentation and the workbook.........regarding 'vacuum</div> <div> cleaners."</div> <bR> <div> My two day old Hyacinthine is 46 grams today.</div> <div> Big and robust...sweet little darling angel.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:02:58 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 2:52:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, OL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > We had a baby lovebird this fall!  Every bit a blue to us as</div> <div> >  your baby is to yo</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hello Sue,</div> <bR> <div> Do I agree with you on that matter...as I just believe any little creature is</div> <div> our love of the earth?  Yes, I'm celebrating my hatch...as I would or do</div> <div> celebrate annoys success of a hatching of a baby.  Congratulations with your</div> <div> baby blue...give him a scratch from me under his wing.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:12:02 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 5:02:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> AvOM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > ></div> <div> >  At the risk of sounding almost as stupid as you, WTF is a hyacinth</div> <div> "ine"?????</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  :></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Your not stupid Blaze...btw, that is the name of my Scarlet Macaw that was</div> <div> stolen.  Read Rosemary Lows  books...  anodorhynchus hyacinthinus  ...--</div> <div> hy*a*cin*thine</div> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ========</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:29:06 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Rose Breast...</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:02:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, DAOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <div> >  >></div> <div> >  sorry, Cherane, whatever you are selling, i am not buying.  i called you</div> <div> > once</div> <div> >  to ask about the price of your beloved galah offspring.  you didn't ask me</div> <div> > one</div> <div> >  single question about who i was or why i wanted one,  thus so much for your</div> <div> >  caring about your "precious babies" you just quoted me a price (btw a</div> <div> higher</div> <div> >  than most pet shops price too).  i also have seen your posts and fights on</div> <div> > the</div> <div> >  newsgroup rec.pets.birds and have no pity for you, you scare me!</div> <div> >  doris</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Doris, What ever you say about me in regard to the offspring of my rose</div> <div> breast..all Rose breast are sold before the eggs are laid.  I havent' the</div> <div> notion of what your talking about...you calling me for a Rosebreast Cockatoo.</div> <div> I haven't had a Rosebreast Cockatoo other then the parents for sale in retail</div> <div> for a long time..if ever!  not even for breeders that call me.</div> <bR> <div> As far as Angel, she/he is sold and was the minute the baby hatched...I'm a</div> <div> breeder in business.  As far as my pricing...that is something I can determine</div> <div> and very sorry if you don't like my prices.  I usually have a good</div> <div> relationship with those people who call me.</div> <bR> <div> I sell my Rosebreast for $1,800 weaned with the AFA closed stainless steel</div> <div> bands...you think that is to much?  I've had the parents well over eight</div> <div> years...as most of my birds have been here for years with me...and with two</div> <div> pairs of Rosebreast in the nest at this time...I do not have a single baby</div> <div> weaned available for you or anyone else...they are all sold, before they</div> <div> hatch.  If I quoted you a higher price it is because that is what I get for my</div> <div> babies.  Do you want to see a picture of my Rosebreast?  Did you get a</div> <div> Rosebreast?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ----------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:16:03 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:53:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> reK.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Marianne Ferris-Whitmore wrote:</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  >      Did you know you could get bags for shop vacs?  I got them</div> <div> >  >      at Walmart when I was looking for a new filter.  Much less</div> <div> >  >      stuff is blown back out.</div> <div> >  ></div> <div> >  ></div> <div> >  ></div> <div> >  >      Marianne</div> <div> >  ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hello Marianne,</div> <bR> <div> My suggestion is to put the canister with the blower outside or do not use the</div> <div> vacuum cleaner at all.  The minute the suction takes anything from the carpet</div> <div> (rags for shoes that have been anywhere) into the bag...you throw out the</div> <div> airborne bacteria, molds through the blower on the canister through the clean</div> <div> air in your bird room.  If you went to the pet store, vets office or another</div> <div> bird owners house you bring into your house with  your shoes onto your carpet</div> <div> and this same bacteria ends up throughout  your bird room......this is enough</div> <div> to cause some problems with birds.  If there is one sick bird, to vacuum is</div> <div> one of the best ways to spread this throughout your bird room...  I do not</div> <div> have my birds on carpet for this reason.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:52:34 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: love and consideration...</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > e me any info about this person Cherane P and the</div> <div> >  health of her stock <just so all you non-believers could hear other</div> <div> >  breeders opinions of her bullshit...></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  WAR</div> <div> >  Cheep Thrills Aviary</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hello, at the very least you have my full name don't you?  How about you?  How</div> <div> about identifying yourself.</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:54:26 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Rose Breast...</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:40:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, L.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  i must be hallucinating.</div> <div> >  doris</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I don't know about that!  However, I hope I have cleared up this important</div> <div> matter for you.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:14:08 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: just for shits and giggles...love and consideration</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  WAR</div> <div> >  Cheep Thrills Aviary</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Just take a look at my sweet babies and darlings...</div> <bR> <div>  <A HREF="http://www.plannedparrothood.com/seniors.html">Senior Psittacines</div> <div> </A></div> <bR> <div> especially this....http://members.tripod.com/~cherane/hyacinthbaby.html</div> <bR> <div>   A real treat....I have many more!!!!</div> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:51:30 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Earthquake !!!</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 11:35:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, L.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > - the birds have been quiet for the</div> <div> >  last hour - those with babies and the rest seem fine - just awsomely</div> <div> >  quiet....</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Are all the eggs, babies and breeders OK?  Does this mean you may get another</div> <div> big jolt?  Do you have to prepare for a bigger one to come?</div> <bR> <div> My best wishes...</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =======</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ==================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:23:07 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Return Scarlet Macaw/detectives/</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 6:57:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> rM writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  a few stolen bikes</div> <div> >  then why aren't they doing it for birds valued well over 300.00 bucks? I</div> <div> >  really have to admit this story does seem a little odd about the police</div> <div> >  knowing who has the bird but not doing anything about it.  But then</div> <div> >  again maybe I'm missing something.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Probably not ... first of all, the detectives have this and it is an open</div> <div> case.  I will not speculate for it is my Macaw  that is involve and I want the</div> <div> safe return of him.</div> <div> Matter of fact, the State department have the case along with the other stolen</div> <div> birds.  I hope someone can figure it out then maybe the return of my bird will</div> <div> happen.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:29:44 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Spelling</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 6:48:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > Please enlighten us poor</div> <div> >  unknowlegeable souls.</div> <div> >  Carol</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> your enlighten...it is *hy a cin thine*</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:27:45 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: just for shits and giggles...</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 6:54:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, r@HOTMAIL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Another question. I read the rec.birds and is this the same person that</div> <div> >  was throwing out fertile macaw eggs?  And having umpteen clutches a</div> <div> >  year?  Or is that another person?</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I will not be responsible for what another writes about my eggs...I have</div> <div> *never* thrown away a fertile egg!</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ======</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ===================================================================</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:30:47 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Len /Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 2:16:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> L.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  BTW, I was VERY impressed with cherasse's version of quarantine, putting</div> <div> the</div> <div> >  hen in with the poor mutt "but in separate cages".</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Hell, why didn't I think of that way of quarantining?  Just throw the new</div> <div> > ones</div> <div> >  right intot he midst of the others since they are in separate cages?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  judith</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Judith,  I have a friend of thirty-three years named Judith...she gets very</div> <div> upset with people who call her Judy....how about you?  My name is 'Cherane."</div> <bR> <div>  There is one bird I'm talking about...quarantine is ten miles from my house.</div> <div> If I'm getting a Macaw for my Macaw. This is the way it will with him.  I do</div> <div> not want a new bird in my house with my Scarlet.</div> <div> It would do me no good to put him in quarantine and have my female die from</div> <div> depression waiting two months...</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:35:01 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Earthquake !!!</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 3:21:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > Sure beats Hurricanes - :)   Don</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I have to agree with that one...although I haven't been through a</div> <div> earthquake..baby weighed in at 48 today..another little joy!  How many eggs do</div> <div> you have now?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> =====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:41:49 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: just for shits and giggles...love and consideration</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 3:40:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> dGNS.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Y'know, for someone whose babies are sold before the eggs are hatched (or</div> <div> >  laid, or whatever), you sure sound like someone who's trying to market</div> <div> >  them, Cherane.</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> Good!  that is my business to market my babies.  However this little one is</div> <div> sold!  And I think I said the baby was sold at the time of hatching!  For</div> <div> instance, I have a buyer for a hyacinthine....no eggs, no babies so I sent him</div> <div> to another breeder..he waited for the egg, baby hatch...then picked it up at</div> <div> seven weeks of age.</div> <div>  I have to admit though, I love to show off my healthy beautiful babies and</div> <div> birds.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ==========</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ===============================================================</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:43:04 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: just for shits and giggles...love and consideration</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:32:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> pbCOM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Seven weeks---well theres another reason to love this women.</div> <div> >  Phyllis</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Phyllis,</div> <bR> <div> I do sell unweaned babies to other Aviculturist!  I bought my Hyacinthine at</div> <div> five weeks of age.  This aviculturist breeds large Psittacines!  I  assure you</div> <div> that I *do not* sell unweaned babies to the public or one who tells me they</div> <div> know how to hand feed.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:47:52 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Quarantine</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 9:27:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, BirdKatie@AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > That way you could have a</div> <div> >  definate diagnosis if something terrible should happen.</div> <div> >  Carol</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I'm sorry if your upset with the way I operate my aviary.  I have a scarlet in</div> <div> trouble and I'll do the best I can by her and the male I find for her.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 1999 22:03:53 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Spelling/new Hyacinthine</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 7:33:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, @YAHOO.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > Got him about two months ago from a family that could no</div> <div> >  longer handle the high demands of such a large bird. They kept the</div> <div> >  poor guy in the garage all the time because he was so nois</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Congratulations ... he seems to be a lucky Hyacinthine!  What is his name?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:51:30 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Hey Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 2:39:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  So does the AFA approve of hybridization?</div> <div> >  --</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  WAR</div> <div> >  Cheep Thrills Aviary</div> <div> >  http://members.tripod.com/~WARBYRD/index.html</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> You might read Rick Jordan's article about this subject in the second to the</div> <div> last issue of Watchbird.  I think he pretty well sums up the idea.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:26:04 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 1:10:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> AOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Amazing she still denies saying it, maybe we have another Sybil or Eve</div> <div> here?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Judith</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> Frankly Judith,      Trying to belittling and shaming me for my throwing away</div> <div> eggs is not becoming to an educated person as yourself.  Calculations and</div> <div> deductions as Watson was told by Sherloc is the answer to any 'debate' or</div> <div> *questions needing answers.</div> <bR> <div> Now, I do not believe I did a bad or terrible thing?  In fact, I loss money</div> <div> doing the practice I do...and I'll continue to do if I find my aviary is</div> <div> overloaded and my parent breeders are on overload.  I will not have a baby</div> <div> that I have to 'get rid ' of for a cheap price nor will I give my babies away</div> <div> to anyone.</div> <div> And I do not believe the price I have for my Scarlet Macaws are out of line</div> <div> with other breeders nor have they been out of line.</div> <bR> <div> I hope I have explain my practice clear enough to all of you...When I throw</div> <div> away an egg I just think throwing away a 'future unwanted baby" in a CLEAR</div> <div> just laid egg.</div> <bR> <div> I think it is a very sad day when Aviculturist beat up one another for the way</div> <div> an Aviculturist runs their establishment in logically thinking they are doing</div> <div> a well thought of practical decision for their breeding Macaws/birds.  I after</div> <div> all have had this pair (or did have) over seven years and love them dearly.</div> <div> I'm after to do the very best for all my birds in my care and I do just that.</div> <bR> <div> If, on the other hand, I had those babies, and sold them to just</div> <div> anyone....maybe you might have a complaint...maybe but unlikely!  Each time</div> <div> you or anyone makes a comment to this practice of mine.  I see and look at</div> <div> thousands of dollars I've lost and I thought about this very carefully before</div> <div> I did what I did.  To bad, for a very good friend of mine told me I could make</div> <div> a great deal more money by just incubating and selling them cheap to brokers.</div> <div> Together we sum it up...and had many buyers for the babies to do just that.</div> <div> At one time this pair had five eggs...with one clutch!  I did sell two of</div> <div> those babies out of the nest so the others before the remainder hatched and</div> <div> survive. I sold those two babies that hatched to an another aviculturist and</div> <div> still am selling to this aviculturist.  So, the next clutch they laid four</div> <div> eggs all fertile...I'll assure you they all four hatched and are in wonderful</div> <div> homes for my sell price.</div> <bR> <div>  I have several Scarlet Macaws babies ... thank God, I can throw away CLEAR</div> <div> EGGS! ...Lets see....ten eggs at let's make it real low..as I was offered by</div> <div> the some who was trying to get my eggs from me along with my birds....back to</div> <div> the figures...ten eggs at 250.  Each...that comes out to $2,500 that I don't'</div> <div> have in my pocket and that was for just eggs.</div> <bR> <bR> <div>   After all....IF I had hatched and IF I had sold them at one week of age ...</div> <div> if I had the parents sit and hatch *IF, they had been fertile * I could have</div> <div> sold them for the amount (lets make them real cheap) at 500 each...again at</div> <div> ten eggs that would have been $5,000 dollars I don't' have in my pocket.</div> <bR> <div> Now, I *do not* believe I did a bad or terrible thing.  In fact, I lose money</div> <div> doing the practice I do...and I'll continue to do if I find my aviary is in</div> <div> any need of it... I will not have a baby that I have to 'get rid ' of for a</div> <div> cheap price nor will I give my babies away.</div> <div> or sell my eggs.</div> <bR> <div> I hope I have explain my practice clear enough to all of you...just think of</div> <div> me throwing away 'weight of money" in a CLEAR just laid egg.</div> <bR> <div> I had a broker who came after me on recpetsbirds for I wouldn't sell my eggs</div> <div> to him?  Of course, you'll find others who are tiff with my practice...at any</div> <div> rate, you'll not have to worry about that any longer for my male is gone.</div> <div> My only concern now is if another aviculturist decides to do this practice</div> <div> with the tiff I have received...I can understand the *brokering* of babies</div> <div> very clear now.</div> <bR> <bR> <div>  I am in my forth day of feeding a hyacinthine....why not focus on this</div> <div> subject.</div> <div> Btw, I have beautiful pictures of this pair Blaze and Scarlet feeding their</div> <div> babies in the nest as I'm feeding Scarlet through the nest door..you can zero</div> <div> in close to see the babies if any one would like to see this picture just</div> <div> email me....</div> <bR> <div> . Along with the fact I'm feeding an adorable six month old Hyacinthine.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div> Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ================================================================</div> <bR> <div> =======</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ==================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:51:30 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Hey Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 2:39:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  So does the AFA approve of hybridization?</div> <div> >  --</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  WAR</div> <div> >  Cheep Thrills Aviary</div> <div> >  http://members.tripod.com/~WARBYRD/index.html</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> You might read Rick Jordan's article about this subject in the second to the</div> <div> last issue of Watchbird.  I think he pretty well sums up the idea.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:51:30 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Hey Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 2:39:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  So does the AFA approve of hybridization?</div> <div> >  --</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  WAR</div> <div> >  Cheep Thrills Aviary</div> <div> >  http://members.tripod.com/~WARBYRD/index.html</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> You might read Rick Jordan's article about this subject in the second to the</div> <div> last issue of Watchbird.  I think he pretty well sums up the idea.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ---------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:01:25 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Len And Cherane's confrontation!</div> <div> Comments: cc: BRADSBIRDS@aol.com</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 4:31:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> leNK.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >   The further sad fact is, the only reason ANY vet will have anything to do</div> <div> >  with you is because you have so many SICK BIRDS they make a MINT off you</div> <div> >  and your merry-go-round "aviary". You are a NUT, a LOON, a PSYCHO and the</div> <div> >  only reason you are even on line is to give yourself a forum to BRAG. I've</div> <div> >  got news for you, anyone can buy a pair of birds and watch them mate. I'm</div> <div> >  just aghast that you're able to do it at STATE EXPENSE <part of her</div> <div> >  "rehabilitation" don't you know>. Law suits, threats and the like are</div> <div> >  Cherane's stock in trade. That and sick birds. She EXCELS at that.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Please, no one encourage her and MAYBE we'll be lucky and she'll just go</div> <div> > away.</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> Changed the subject line for those who want to *delete*</div> <div> Make up your mind Len....am I rich or poor?  The state of Florida is not about</div> <div> to buy nor have they bought any bird, food, mortgage payment of the like for</div> <div> me...matter of a fact, I didn't or haven't taken any social security,</div> <div> assistance or the like from any agency due to the success of my breeding</div> <div> birds.  What ever has been done has been done on my own......</div> <bR> <div> As far as ten years...again...your beefing up your own head.  You haven't been</div> <div> around me ten years!  Matter of a fact, I think you'd better do some of your</div> <div> own checking on GENIE and you'll find they took  my money for at least three</div> <div> years past from the SAME ACCOUNT ... oh, yes!  My name Cherane Trajere, was my</div> <div> business  name...my BIRTH NAME on my BIRTH CERTIFICATE was and is Cherane</div> <div> Pefley.</div> <bR> <div> Again, you don't have a pot to piss in for anyone to go after you!  However,</div> <div> this time I'll *not*  just sit and take your out and out LIES...or your crap!</div> <div> I'm not rehabilitating now...nor vulnerable...are you capable of dealing with</div> <div> me?</div> <div> With this in mind...I'll make an attempt to put you and I back to where we</div> <div> need to be for the sake of this list...and our Macaws, after all each time you</div> <div> speak out against me you are killing my Macaws.....my babies, not me!  You and</div> <div> I are in the same community like it or not.</div> <bR> <div> I'm sure you can be cruel and attacking...I know your way, you use your email</div> <div> with interactions to use others to hassle those that come into direct conflict</div> <div> with your plans of power, control.</div> <div> Tell me what have you been doing through the last past years since 94?  What</div> <div> have you been doing with  your life regarding contributing to our Aviculture</div> <div> community?  I'm all ears!</div> <bR> <div> Btw, My pictures are going to be used in Rick Jordan's new book..and I'm not</div> <div> even a professional picture taker...:)</div> <div>  ... are you going to get into the late nineties and continue to share you</div> <div> knowledge in a likable fashion as the old Len I once knew?  It is obvious that</div> <div> your have found a spot here and some adore you...(as I once) and I do have</div> <div> MACAWS and this is a list for all...I will continue to participate (after all</div> <div> I would nt want to live with your telling everyone that I got kicked off by</div> <div> you) and I'm sure some will find my notes worthy to read.</div> <bR> <div> talk about Macaws and life can be so much easier for you and I and this list.</div> <div> I have plenty to talk about with my Macaws...for the record Len, I have known</div> <div> you only since 92.</div> <div> You bet I have every little email from you to the tune of you what beer you</div> <div> drink and what cogs you smoke.  To your sweet adorable self back in the old</div> <div> days!  Where and how  you got your Greenwing babies..your and my little secret</div> <div> you told me to keep quiet about...and I have kept quiet just for</div> <div> practice....your picture with your cute little note...and a whole bunch more</div> <div> when you were liking me those days........you shared a lot with me ... with so</div> <div> much more.</div> <bR> <div> Listen Len, enjoy your list.....be the wonderful educated knowledge person I</div> <div> know you to be many moons ago ...I don't have the time in this world to help</div> <div> others that I know you can do if you change your tune a little with them.</div> <div> I've not understood how you have gotten to be so cruel and mean, (of course</div> <div> practice makes perfect), when your old notes are from a  heartfelt warm</div> <div> likable chap giving information to others.</div> <bR> <div> I'm interested in knowing other owners that the Macaw's own as well,  finding</div> <div> good homes for some of my babies.  I'm still interested in what you have done</div> <div> with your breeding, bird owning days since I've last heard from you with</div> <div> regard to contributing to our Aviculture community.  I don't care to live in</div> <div> the past ten years...as I have so much going on in my life today...for</div> <div> instance.</div> <bR> <div> I just got back from spending six weeks in South Africa!  Giving and learning</div> <div> with exchanging information with regard to the African Psittacines.  I just</div> <div> hatched a Hyacinthine Macaw....I have a six month old Hyacinthine Macaw...you</div> <div> remember Velvet the baby I and Don picked up in 94..at five weeks of age?  I'm</div> <div> onto my second baby she has given me.  A veterinarian that I have known for</div> <div> over five years put the male with me for Velvet.  I ended up buying the male.</div> <div> Yes, A veterinarian!</div> <div> She and I are very good friends...</div> <bR> <div> I hope you enjoy my success with the Macaws as you were one of the first to</div> <div> share my joy with my Juda Ben Hur....my military ... remember?  I still own</div> <div> them Ben and his mate Ester!</div> <bR> <div> By the way, I have pictures of my Military's if anyone would like to see them.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> Ps</div> <div> I'm sure you can be cruel and attacking...I know your way, you use your email</div> <div> with interactions to use others to hassle those that come into direct conflict</div> <div> with your plans of power, control.</div> <div> However, get over it....and get with today with making new memories..you'll</div> <div> just kill your self with hate and contempt....I'm not going away.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ======</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ===================================================================</div> <div> <I>Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:09:33 EST</I></div> <div> <I>Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></I></div> <div> <I>Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></I></div> <div> <I>From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></I></div> <div> <I>Subject:      Re: Abused/unwanted birds--HERE'S ONE</I></div> <div> <I>Mime-Version: 1.0</I></div> <div> <I>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</I></div> <div> <I>Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>It would or could be wonderful if I might say that most bird owners I approve</I></div> <div> <I>of having birds...not the case.  Show me a person without compassion, caring,</I></div> <div> <I>understanding of the short comings of another, tolerance, patience,</I></div> <div> <I>encouragement, nurturing support and I'll show you the caretaker of a bird</I></div> <div> <I>that cries out this song in pain.  Oh, God!  Let me never become what I read</I></div> <div> <I>on this list.  Understand what you practice you'll become, as I've seen the</I></div> <div> <I>change after many years of separation.  One cannot separate the meanness and</I></div> <div> <I>cruelty of a bird or a human.  Practice makes perfect no matter who or what</I></div> <div> <I>you practice.  The practice becomes part of you and your makeup and you'll</I></div> <div> <I>live with it till you change.  I have copied this to tell you people aren't</I></div> <div> <I>born this way, they *become* this way, mean and cruel.</I></div> <div> <I>I have already been faced with your cruelty and I shudder to think you'll</I></div> <div> <I>escape without a mark for you won't.  You'll end up demonstrating this on your</I></div> <div> <I>birds one way or another.</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>I have seen you demonstrate this meanness and cruelty to others on this list</I></div> <div> <I>and not just to myself.  I hope you remember we all have a common bond and</I></div> <div> <I>hopefully, that is the owning of a Macaw or many Macaws.  Now, hopefully, we</I></div> <div> <I>can share and stop the meanness and the cruelty...for it will stay with you</I></div> <div> <I>forever.</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>Below is EDITED from orginal message TO GIVE JUDITH ARCHER CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE as Author of </I></div> <div> <I> </I><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://www.vin.com/PetCare/Articles/Birds/PCF02564.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.vin.com/PetCare/Articles/Bird"><U>The Rescue's Song</U></A></FONT><I>  </I></div> <div> <B>...</B> The Rescue's Song The Bird Forum <B>Judith</B> <B>Archer</B> JArcher107@aol.com <B>Judith</B> has</div> <div> rescued many birds. The following poem tells the tale of a few of these. <B>...</B> </div> <div> www.vin.com/PetCare/Articles/Birds/PCF02564.htm - 19k - <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>Cached</U></FONT> - <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>Similar pages</U></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> ====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:27:42 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: rosebreasted cockatoos, etc.</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 9:14:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, DRTCHNJ@AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Re: Galah Question</div> <div> >  Author: Cherane <cherane@aol.com>Date: 1998/06/06Forum: rec.pets.birds</div> <div> >    sponsored by:</div> <div> >    more headers author posting history</div> <div> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  >most impossible to find one for <$1500, and pretty tough to find one</div> <div> >  >for <$2000!!!!</div> <div> >  Correct..my Rosebreast is listed at $2,500...</div> <div> >  Cherane Pefley</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  <<There is a Rosebreasted at PetSmart down the road....they want $1999 for</div> <div> >  her.... it will be a cold day before another 'too comes thru this front</div> <div> door.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Di>></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  thank you heather, i got cherane's quote from deja news.  i know i called</div> <div> > her,</div> <div> >  but maybe mixed up reading her post with calling about that bird?? in any</div> <div> > case</div> <div> >  in nov. of 97 she did have a rosebreasted for sale.  my memory is terrible</div> <div> > and</div> <div> >  i shouldn't state things that i am not absolutely positive about.</div> <bR> <div> Do you mean I have to go hunt dejanews to show you that was my petbreeder</div> <div> Palie!</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:41:23 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: question for Cherane re pics</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 10:13:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> PathPhDMD@AOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > i Cherane,</div> <div> >          Just wondering-do you use leg chains on your hyacinths? I thought I</div> <div> > saw some</div> <div> >  in the picture? Aren't they dangerous?</div> <div> >  AE</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Never...yes they are dangerous....that is the swing hanging under the perch</div> <div> with the bolts screwed in under the bottom of the bottle brush.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:03:16 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Was: Cherane, Now: Chilled Birds</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 10:07:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> MJCorrell@AOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Does this make any sense?  For you experienced ones out there:  should a</div> <div> >  chilled bird be warmed this way?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Thanks,</div> <div> >  Rummy (aka Running-Horse)</div> <div> >  Animal Rescue Team     animalSOS@aol.com</div> <div> >  personal Email: horsecorel@aol.com</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> I would never place a bird in a wet anything to warm it up.  A</div> <div> brooder/incubator is the best way and slowly warming up at that.  I'm so sorry</div> <div> to hear of your loss it is so hard to deal with a dying anything as I just</div> <div> went through this with a Cat that I fell in love with in South Africa...can</div> <div> you believe this...a cat!  It was my time for this experience.</div> <bR> <div> For a large bird as a Macaw...one can make a hospital out of their cage by</div> <div> placing a 60 watt light bulb close to one end and cover the cage with a cotton</div> <div> clean sheet and bring up the temp of the cage close to 88.  One might warm up</div> <div> the perch but be very careful to make sure the perch is not *hot* for the feet</div> <div> or your inner elbow!</div> <bR> <div> Make sure you use a temp gauge and do not place the bulb close to anything</div> <div> that can cause burning.  Lyons have a couple of units for heating up in these</div> <div> emergencies...a good idea of always having one around.  I have four of them.</div> <div> They are ceramic with 25 watt red bulbs.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =====</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ====================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:14:11 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Newbie questions re. perches</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 8:14:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, nbailey@CSI.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > Do you avoid PVC and CPVC because the</div> <div> >  birds might (or do) shred the pipe?</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Hi Nancy..</div> <bR> <div> Yes, I avoid the PVC because of micro splinters and bacteria that thrives on</div> <div> this material...</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:20:18 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 1:04:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, MJCorrell@AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  a message dated 02/26/1999 9:54:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,</div> <div> >  rottnlvr@HOTMAIL.COM writes:</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  << It's very sad when someone who clams to love</div> <div> >   birds throws away eggs, and reading your post would rather do that very</div> <div> >   thing then reduce your price and find them good homes.  >></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  I'm a bit confused here (also have a huge case of sleep deprivation...)</div> <div> >  Doesn't this refer to throwing away of infertile eggs?  (By the way I have</div> <div> > not</div> <div> >  read any of the other earlier posts on this thread due to being distracted;</div> <div> >  sorry.)</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Rummy (aka Running-Horse)</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Ay, infertile eggs...I guess they wanted me to sell unwanted babies for a</div> <div> couple of hundred dollars ..you know cheap so people could have them ...like</div> <div> brokers, freebies...and the like .. just think I lost around hmm at 500 a</div> <div> piece..$5,000 and their having a fit with my decision.  and I'm the one</div> <div> without the five grand! oh, yes another emailed me to say please take 650 for</div> <div> a scarlet macaw...</div> <bR> <div> So, that would bring it up to $6,500 I'm out of pocket change by throwing away</div> <div> these eggs.  Cannot win either direction I head for with some of these angels.</div> <bR> <div> By, this keeps up we'll have authorities in telling us what we can do n what</div> <div> we can''t do with our breeding facilities.</div> <div> Thanks for the benefit of a doubt...</div> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:24:36 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 12:54:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> rottnlvr@HOTMAIL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  Money doesn't</div> <div> >  matter when finding wonderful homes for birds or any other pet. Some</div> <div> >  people that can afford whatever they want sometimes make a worse home</div> <div> >  then a family on a budget.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> If you did some arthemetic..you'd see I lost money by throwing away the eggs!</div> <div> If I had sold my birds to a broker...store that would be OK with you?</div> <bR> <div> ===========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:32:43 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Return Scarlet Macaw/Police</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 10:04:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, katmom@TRIP.NET</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > If you feel persecuted it is probably</div> <div> >  because of your inability to keep from contradicting yourself or to express</div> <div> >  yourself coherently.  IMHO</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Kathy</div> <bR> <bR> <div> You think this is a good enough reason to persecute me!  You might be trying</div> <div> to make me *feel* this way however, I can assure you I was pure with my</div> <div> request.  I thought your answer might make  you think a little about yourself.</div> <div> Now, reread your answer.  Are you proud of your self?  Do you feel like a</div> <div> better friend to another?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:32:43 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Return Scarlet Macaw/Police</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/26/99 10:04:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, katmom@TRIP.NET</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > If you feel persecuted it is probably</div> <div> >  because of your inability to keep from contradicting yourself or to express</div> <div> >  yourself coherently.  IMHO</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Kathy</div> <bR> <bR> <div> You think this is a good enough reason to persecute me!  You might be trying</div> <div> to make me *feel* this way however, I can assure you I was pure with my</div> <div> request.  I thought your answer might make  you think a little about yourself.</div> <div> Now, reread your answer.  Are you proud of your self?  Do you feel like a</div> <div> better friend to another?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:53:11 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Return Scarlet Ma/ just for wars</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 11:56:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> toocute@TELEVAR.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Oh fuckin please!!!!</div> <div> >  Would you two like some cheese with your whine????</div> <div> >  Fuck, like Cherane is the only one here that has had a hard go of it!</div> <div> >  How 'bout the folks that are terminaly ill,or have had a handicap from</div> <div> >  birth but never mention it because that don't want or need sympathy to</div> <div> >  sell their birds...</div> <div> >  Hey maybe we should give Dan Spencer a macaw invite....</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> Hey, I have a lot more to tell...you want hear?  I have a forty-two year old</div> <div> son who is retarded...is that enough cheese...?  Or how about my brother in</div> <div> law is about to die in another month? Is that sad enough for you?  or....lets</div> <div> see...what else is there?</div> <bR> <bR> <div> OH....PLEEEEEEEZZZZEEEE...I don't have the liberty of YOUR name...but I'll</div> <div> tell you I have NO problems with my life...and I certainly am NOT handicap at</div> <div> all. I did not bring this 'matter' up.</div> <bR> <div> I've got the hints with name calling, insulting me with brain cell</div> <div> damage....and a few other things said on this list pertaining to my writing</div> <div> and spelling.</div> <bR> <div> I've got your phone number...I'll find out who you are!  then I'll have a name</div> <div> to go with your attacks...</div> <bR> <div> Now, go wash your ugly mouth out with soap onehundred times for your meanness</div> <div> in you.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I've lived a life...and I also know full well of death.....None of us escape</div> <div> being vulnerable of life and what it brings to us.  However, lady or man who</div> <div> every you are.....much can be said behind a 'secret' name...huh?</div> <bR> <div> Come on out and show yourself...</div> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:58:07 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: THE AFA/waz hey cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 11:58:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, Byrdy1@AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > ould not condone nor refuse the subject. stasis !</div> <div> >  As for the word you used "Allow" - that's a gov.com implementaion problem</div> <div> > that</div> <div> >  will probably happen if we can't stop the dissention between ourselves -</div> <div> the</div> <div> >  AR folks just love to divide and control !!</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  - avicultural morality cannot be legislated, it must be practiced.</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Boy, is this not the truth!!!  Little do people realize what they really are</div> <div> doing..</div> <bR> <div> Great information</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:22:09 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 12:41:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> marianne@K2NESOFT.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Rummy,</div> <div> >  Your confusion is not due to your distraction or lack of sleep.  Cherane is</div> <div> >  denying throwing away fertile eggs, and at the same time saying she was</div> <div> >  offered $500. and $650. for them.  I'm not in the business, but I'll go way</div> <div> >  out on a limb and guess that no one is going to pay that kind of money for</div> <div> >  an infertile egg.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  And in the quote I originally posted, sh</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Dont you have better things to do then to change around my words to accomodate</div> <div> your attacks.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:42:06 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: benjamin...flea collar</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 12:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> lenz@EARTHLINK.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  Does the dog wear a flea collar? Been groomed recently? Flea dipped?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  EL</div> <div> >  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> You've brought up an interesting observation...When I treated the infested</div> <div> Baby Grays with a treatment for dogs and cats...Front Line it is called ...</div> <div> one of the warnings was to make sure you washed thoroughly after using it.  It</div> <div> could cause major problems with humans having respiratory and rash if left on</div> <div> the skin.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:55:48 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: AE/Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 12:44:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> stanval@AZSTARNET.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  for 4 years..  We do</div> <div> >  also have a dog which was here when Benj arrived.  I guess it's possible</div> <div> but</div> <div> >  not probable that he's allergic to the dog.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Thanks,</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Stan.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Stan, has the dog been treated with any "drop on the back" meds for fleas?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:16:26 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, now excessive egg laying</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 2:15:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> icarusfl@MEDIAONE.NET writes:</div> <bR> <div> >   Put them in captivity</div> <div> >  and manipulate the conditions so they dramatically over produce and you are</div> <div> >  asking for trouble.  Hormone levels kept high for long periods of time are</div> <div> >  stressing the bird's whole system.  The constant effort of producing eggs</div> <div> >  can deplete the nutritional stores of the hen, leading to reproductive</div> <div> >  problems such as egg binding, osteoporosis and malnutrition.  It is not a</div> <div> >  wise way to manage stock for their long term health.</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Kath & Ic</div> <div> >  Do No Harm</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Good point other then the manipulating the environment.  I'm in Florida and on</div> <div> the ocean.  I have moved them, remove their nest box, no lights you name</div> <div> it...the conditions are just perfect here to make these birds happy birds.</div> <div> And in the ten years I have been here, I have never had any kind of stress as</div> <div> you have named above.  I bought special formula from Howard to give my</div> <div> Scarlets for excessive egg laying and pulled them.  The stress is very hard on</div> <div> them when they are feeding and taking care of babies.  It amazes me how one</div> <div> assumes the worst in me about my own birds and just how wonderful all of you</div> <div> are with my birds....my birds!</div> <bR> <div> I feel like I joined some government agency here not a Macaw list!</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:25:24 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: benjamin... spot flea treatment</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 2:29:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, normav@ONR.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > CAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET (The Macaws List)</div> <div> >  To:  MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  OK.  I read this to mean that you used a dog/cat flea treatment, Front</div> <div> >  Line, on flea infested Baby Grays?  Is this correct?</div> <div> >  Norma</div> <bR> <bR> <div> The one and two day old baby grays had maggots in the ears and nares from a</div> <div> fly that thrives off nest babies.  The veterinarian had me treat the babies</div> <div> with this 'front line for the maggots.  This stuff kill the cat!  Made the</div> <div> lady of the house come down with respiratory problems and a rash just from</div> <div> holding her treated dog.</div> <bR> <div> Thus the reason I asked if by chance he treated his dog with anything similar?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane-----------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> -</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  At 12:42 PM 2/27/99 , you wrote:</div> <div> >  <snip></div> <div> >  >You've brought up an interesting observation...When I treated the infested</div> <div> >  >Baby Grays with a treatment for dogs and cats...Front Line it is called</div> <div> ...</div> <div> >  >one of the warnings was to make sure you washed thoroughly after using it.</div> <div> > It</div> <div> >  >could cause major problems with humans having respiratory and rash if left</div> <div> > on</div> <div> >  >the skin.</div> <div> >  ></div> <div> >  >Cherane</div> <div> ></div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:40:21 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 2:33:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> AviphileRB@AOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  >></div> <div> >  What do you suppose we were to make of her original remark (see below)?  I</div> <div> >  believe this is what started this whole thread.:></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  "I'm now looking for a Camelot Male for her till I get Blaze back.</div> <div> >  They were together for 12 years...and have been with me since 92</div> <div> >  Thanks for asking about Scarlet...</div> <div> >  Cherane"</div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  -----------</div> <div> Norma, if you reread my post ...I made it very clear that I was putting him</div> <div> next to my Scarlet in separate cages....many came back with my quarantine</div> <div> practices ... if it isn't one thing it is another...I also said that when I</div> <div> got Blaze back....the Camelot would be my pet!</div> <bR> <div> This is a real hassle to share my grief of loss my scarlet, my celebration of</div> <div> my hyacinthine hatching.  I make a post of that and have coming back at me for</div> <div> my way of spelling hyacinthine.</div> <bR> <div> You guys are something else!  However, someone else jumped on the bandwagon</div> <div> about my breeding hybrids...and I followed through now that I really don't</div> <div> give much for what I do....it is my business and none of you do I owe a thing.</div> <div> you certainly haven't given any credit or happiness for my baby I'm feeding</div> <div> here around the clock...or any of the other birds I breed.</div> <bR> <div> What is this...a rape gang?  All of you just join in for the next punch and</div> <div> call that great enough to make popcorn?  Do you really think your going to get</div> <div> through this world unhurt?  So far that is what I'm seeing a pack of a gang</div> <div> trying to out do each other with your meanness.</div> <div> .. And to think you all own Macaws!</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:00:01 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 3:02:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, Byrdy1@AOL.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > I'd prefer the same specie tho.</div> <div> >  Don</div> <div> ></div> <div> Me too...you know I would...I'd love one...Howard called me last nite..he is</div> <div> going to try hard to find me one for her...God, it is nice to have friends!</div> <bR> <div> I'm lifted by his call...and your kind replies and Lawrence devoted attention</div> <div> to fight for me.</div> <bR> <div> I'll take this time to thank all of you who have emailed me with support,</div> <div> thoughtfulness and your kind words.</div> <div> It s just sad, that more celebration could not have happen here with the</div> <div> hatching of my hyacinthine baby.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:23:19 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: babies</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 3:46:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> mhall@RIVERSIDE.ORG writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> >  ></div> <div> >  >As I've looked for a male just like my pair for over five years for</div> <div> another</div> <div> >  >female Scarlet and haven't found one with clean bill of health.  While</div> <div> >  >everyone tells me how plentiful they are, I sure haven't' found one...</div> <div> > however,</div> <div> >  >if you can please bring him on out and I'll snatch him in a heart beat.</div> <div> >  ></div> <div> >  >I want a bird for my female now......so I have chosen a Camelot for her</div> <div> ...</div> <div> > if</div> <div> >  >I have babies...I'll not worry for none of my babies have been sitting in</div> <div> >  >trees thus far and I doubt if ever I'll send them to the rainforest....a</div> <div> > pet</div> <div> >  >is a pet is a pet!</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  --</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Yes, I wrote that ... after I wrote about the Macaw being in another cage and</div> <div> a fit was given about the quarantine.</div> <bR> <div> However, my breeding practices are my own business...I have the respect of</div> <div> those people who I need to like and love me.  No one here do I need to please.</div> <div> You don seem to understand that I had no intention of putting the Camelot with</div> <div> my female..however after my freedom of doing thus has been attacked...I really</div> <div> do not care what you like or not like...I'll do what I need to do for my</div> <div> aviary and my Scarlet.</div> <div> No one seem to happy when I said they would go to ten miles from here and be</div> <div> in separate cages so now.....so what?  Do you think I'm here to please you?</div> <bR> <div> Most of you have followed through with being mean and cruel with your remarks</div> <div> of my babies, birds and not to mention me.</div> <bR> <div> So, Lawrence have no fear...I will put the Camelot after quarantine with my</div> <div> Scarlet female.....and guess what...I will do this just as an out of my mouth</div> <div> to show I have that freedom to do just that!  I respect you and Don, and many</div> <div> others...however some of the most world known aviculturist breed hybrids...and</div> <div> they are just now telling me...they thought I was one of these purist of</div> <div> heart...God, forbid!</div> <bR> <div> So, just don't argue with these people they now can say I'm a hybrid breeder.</div> <div> I know for a fact, some others on this list breed hybrids...or use to breed</div> <div> hybrids.  I hate to think they quit just for this group.</div> <div> Sorry If I'm disappointing you Lawrence and Don...its that old Freedom thing</div> <div> that has me...</div> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> checked with my MAP too  I'm in compliance with both AFA and MAP...</div> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ==</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:50:36 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: filters/was: Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 4:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> dianEOM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > diane@WO (</div> <bR> <bR> <div> I wont even quote your nonsense.  I do not really care what you think and I'm</div> <div> not interested in pleasing you with any answers.  Matter of a fact, Lady...I</div> <div> don't owe you any explanation about my eggs, birds or breeders.</div> <bR> <div> What do you people do take courses on attacks?  What have you been told that</div> <div> you have formed such a hostile opinion of me?</div> <bR> <div> It's very obvious to me your just needlessly attacking anything you think you</div> <div> can squeeze.  Do you understand I'm going on sixty...and I don't owe you a</div> <div> thing, your not buying any of my birds...your not the government, or any</div> <div> permit holder!  Your the kind of person I fight to make sure I retain my right</div> <div> to do with my birds as I wish....the fact I'm MAP certified should answer any</div> <div> questions you have...including take away any of your hostile attitude.</div> <bR> <div> of course, just my humble opinion</div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:53:15 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: filters/was: Cherane</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 4:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> diane@WONDERWEBDESIGNS.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <div> >  someone with a brain injury,</div> <bR> <bR> <div> So who said anything about 'brain injury'?  better watch it kid....walk</div> <div> softley...things have changed about freedom of speech with in the last couple</div> <div> of years!</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> ===================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:08:02 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: ;norma</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 1:39:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, normav@ONR.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> > If I had sold my birds to a broker...store that would be OK with you?</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  Cherane, what I find not OK is that you don't seem to tell the truth!</div> <div> >  Yesterday you vehemently denied ever throwing eggs away then someone copied</div> <div> >  a 9/98 post you wrote of throwing eggs away and now you admit that you</div> <div> >  *did* throw eggs away and attempt to justify it????</div> <div> >  Norma</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> ...and Norma, what I find not OK is you accuse and twist words.  I most</div> <div> certainly did not say I didn't t throw away eggs....I said "I do not throw</div> <div> away *fertile eggs*."</div> <bR> <div> And again, my loss I didn't collect money for what ever would have could have</div> <div> hatched.  If I was out for money, I would have done just that!  I'll tell you</div> <div> this is just out and out attacks and I do not like it one bit.</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:23:46 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Len/Re: Benjamin</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 5:19:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> diane@WONDERWEBDESIGNS.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  flea dipped.  When</div> <bR> <bR> <div> What do you use for fleas?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:37:24 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: Gang</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 5:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,</div> <div> AviphileRB@AOL.COM writes:</div> <bR> <div> > have won any friends on this list, Ima afraid you</div> <div> >  will be sorely disappointed. I doubt seriously you will ever be taken</div> <div> >  seriously here after all the bologne you've posted.  Do us all a</div> <div> favor.....:></div> <div> ></div> <div> ></div> <bR> <bR> <div> I have received many post from 'friends ' on this list.  They apologize for</div> <div> your conduct.  I will continue to defend myself  with regard to my birds,</div> <div> babe, eggs.  You should be happy that I fight for my right as a breeder  as in</div> <div> my doing so...all AR people who just wait for opportunities as this jump right</div> <div> on in here to add fuel to the fire.  It is not Cherane doing this to you...you</div> <div> are doing it to all breeders when you attack my rights regarding my babies and</div> <div> my birds.</div> <bR> <div> The fact MAP is a qualified international voluntary program shows my</div> <div> dedication to the Avicultural Community.  You have taken an opportunity to</div> <div> needlessly injure my person and my aviary and when good Aviculturist as I, are</div> <div> no longer, you hurt your own selves with regard to owning a bird.</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> ===</div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> ======================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:39:53 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: love your hyacinthine</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> Oh my love your sweetie..</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="627" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF HEIGHT= 20 WIDTH="293"><div> <B>Messages</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#0000FF WIDTH="327"><div> <B><U>Messages Help </U></B></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <div> Date:         Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:13:38 EST</div> <div> Reply-To:     The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> Sender:       The Macaws List <MACAWS@PARROT.NEWWAVE.NET></div> <div> From:         Cherane Pefley <Cherane@AOL.COM></div> <div> Subject:      Re: pictures, anyone?  sure!</div> <div> Mime-Version: 1.0</div> <div> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII</div> <div> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit</div> <bR> <div> In a message dated 2/27/99 10:45:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, gr8brd@YAHOO.COM</div> <div> writes:</div> <bR> <div> >  I didn't think so. Anyone</div> <div> >  want to see more pictures? SURE!</div> <div> ></div> <div> >  CG</div> <div> ></div> <bR> <div> I'd love to see more pictures of your jewel, Levi</div> <div> How old is he?  I, for one hope you set him up with another Hyacinthine Macaw.</div> <div> Looking forward to seeing more pictures.</div> <div>  Do you have golden conures too?</div> <bR> <div> Cherane</div> <bR> <div> ------------------------------------------------------------------------</div> <div> Cherane Pefley</div> <div>  Vero Beach, FL</div> <div> Phone: 561-569-2206</div> <bR> <div> Certified by the Model Aviary Program (MAP)</div> <div> http://www.medtech.ca/medtech/Friends/map.htm</div> <bR> <div> Member of (AFA) American Federation of Aviculture</div> <div> =========================================================================</div> <bR> <div> Continue: click <A HREF="id179.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Feb 28 1999 Macaws List">Feb 28 1999 Macaws List</A></div> <div> <I><B><U></U></B></I><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" >This site was designed and built by: Cherane Pefley Copyright © 2001.  All rights reserved</FONT></div> </td> </tr></table></body>